The Q-L245 SNP Pack – Update 1

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The Q-L245 SNP Pack – Update 1

During the BETA launch of the new Q-L245 SNP Pack panel over 50 people ordered. This is wonderful. We expect to discover many new things even with this first group.

I have already learned more about what project members do and don’t know about their test results. For me, addressing this is one of the best parts of being a project administrator.

Who are you?

I am Rebekah A. Canada. I founded the Q Y-DNA Project in 2006. I am an unpaid volunteer project administrator at Family Tree DNA. The Q Y-DNA Project was the second DNA project that I founded, and my first Y-DNA project. The project now has two administrators and a dozen co-administrators.

Project administrators enjoy a mutually beneficial relationship with Family Tree DNA. They give us a free templated webpage to display results and backend tools to evaluate members’ results. In return, project administrators provide most of the result interpretation to customers. We use our own e-mail addresses and phone numbers for our work. In short, we are not Family Tree DNA staff.

Project administrators are generally genealogists and citizen scientists. We have a passion for discovery. Usually though, we have limited personal budgets. This means we count on project members and donors to pay for the tests that move discovery forward.

I, personally, am affiliated with Family Tree DNA in two roles. First, I am a project administrator. Second, I am a paid consultant for work that is really most sincerely different from what I do as a project administrator. In the second role, I work on stuff that I am not allowed to talk about.

That makes me a bit different from the almost 3,000 other project administrators at Family Tree DNA, but not in a way that matters for the project. The first role is much more fun.

So, on to the joy of genetic genealogy and citizen science.

What are Y-DNA SNPs?

Y-Chromosome DNA is the DNA that all men inherit from their father’s. In human population genetics and genetic genealogy, there are two types of Y-Chromosome DNA markers. They are STRs and SNPs. The technical details are not too important.

  • STRs – Faster moving markers good for recent genealogy especially when a common surname is present.
  • SNPs – Slower moving markers that define the male line from fairly recent times back to our earliest male ancestor.

Y-DNA SNPs are slow moving genetic changes. They are considered stable in that they are unlikely to change more than once. A Y-DNA SNP happens every 2 to 4 generations on a direct male line. This makes them the landmarks for building the paternal tree of mankind.

Like our genealogical tree, each branch has a single father branch. At high enough testing resolution, they can serve as stand ins for a traditional Western European style paternal surname.

How do you know the ages of branches?

The project is using branch ages determined with Big Y and Y Elite 1.0 results processed by YFull. This is a SNP per base pair tested dating method. You can read the methods paper here.

Isn’t Q Siberian?

Well, actually, no; it is not. Dr. Michael Hammer announced at the big Family Tree DNA project administrators’ conference in 2014 that, based on new information, both haplogroup Q and R have likely origins in South Asia.

Why is the Q-L245 SNP Panel test important?

When I started the Q project 9 years ago, there was a small group of Ashkenazi Jewish men who seemed to share a common ancestor. Over time, we discovered other men who were not Ashkenazi Jewish but had similar genetic profiles. With more discoveries, we found that all of these men belong to Q-L245.

There are now men with many origins in the Q-L245 group. These include Armenians, Turks, Arabs, Persians, Kurds, Assyrians, and even an Azeri. In Europe, there are branches from Germany, the Netherlands, and Swiss Mennonites. There are also now African and Sephardic Jews as well as Ashkenazi Jews.

The common origin is many thousands of years ago. For example, the Ashkenazi Jewish parent branch, Q-Y2200, is about 2,000 years old.

We tested many of these men including over a dozen Jewish Q-L245 men using the advanced BIG Y test from Family Tree DNA and some men with the Y-Elite 1.0 test from Full Genomes Corp. In these results, we found many new branches that show the connections and ages between the different branches. Because tests like BIG Y are still rather expensive, we placed defining markers for the new branches on the Q-L245 panel.

Who Ordered?

Below is a table of orders.

FTDNA KitNameOriginEthnic Group
N10811AllonUkraineAshkenazi
360463AlossiItaly
218925AlperovichAshkenazi
N89634AvksentyevUkraine
86495BerksonLithuaniaAshkenazi
168299BlockCzech RepublicAshkenazi
N59852Brockett
N69419CaliandriItaly
277247FrankGermany
117733FrankLithuania
50021FriedmanHungaryAshkenazi
61751FriedmanAshkenazi
306047GreeneLatviaAshkenazi-Levite
N24707HaberGermanyAshkenazi
266787HoveyNetherlands
70600HowardLatviaAshkenazi-Levite
156072HuffNetherlands
156851IsaakGermanyAshkenazi
158843JosephPolandAshkenazi
138817KaplanLatviaAshkenazi
N60780KarpPolandAshkenazi
173631KnightIranZoroastrian
423440KrakoskiLithuania
E5340MaranTurkeyArminian
382597MarcusRomania
N23549MarkLatviaAshkenazi
N18797MarksRomaniaAshkenazi
115493MichelsonLithuaniaAshkenazi
N44498MiliaccaItaly
110473NemerRomaniaAshkenazi
224586OppenheimerGermanyAshkenazi
N137278PaxtonUS
240219PelterPoland
185510PerlHungaryAshkenazi
N74094PosnerRussia
139521Powell
57385ReichbaumAshkenazi
B12053RofheartLithuania
208674Santa Maria
339613SchackmanRussian Federation
285078Schutt
45731SchweitzerUkraineAshkenazi
B5668ShawPoland
115454ShockeySwitzerland
155591ShpolyanskyUkraineAshkenazi
129123SilvermanRomania (Bukovina)Ashkenazi
78149Smith
277002SouekCzech Republic
N86207SternfeldPolandAshkenazi
243739Steven FriedmanSlovakiaAshkenazi
129312TarkoffUkraineAshkenazi
366083TaylorEngland
170400YoungAshkenazi
244267ZyroffPoland

What SNP Markers are on the Q-L245 SNP Panel?

The following Y-Chromosome SNP markers are on the panel. These SNPs were selected from the current YFull.com tree and project member’s BIG Y and Y-Elite results. This tree shows how the SNP markers relate to the experimental tree at YFull.

SNP NamePosition (Build 37)HUGO Reference ValueAncestral ValueDerived Value
Y22333148720AAG
BZ643160089AAC
Y22534686350AAG
Y22294914530AAG
YP7306704240AAC
BZ517739247AAT
BZ388292569AAG
YP74614004634AAG
Y221614353022AAC
BZ6815017128AAT
BZ7615165935AAC
BZ5815678462AAG
YP100917281110AAG
BZ3517891743AAG
Y220918051798AAC
YP124618071973AAG
Y220818207170AAG
YP123018597044AAG
Y275018697269AAG
BZ2921163811AAG
BZ3221322098AAG
YP123521783201AAG
BZ5221988185AAT
BZ4622041373AAG
Y278122612418AAT
Y219822825080AAG
Y219722953894AAG
BZ6328626650AAC
YP12362734466CCG
BZ313085515CCA
Y22314606181CCT
Y22304798081CCA
Y22256949449CCT
Y30267116693CCG
YP12377193834CCT
YP39257873571CCG
BZ427958215CCT
Y22248662585CCA
BZ408791604CCT
Y27809761433CCT
Y22199892635CCT
YP122610006352CCT
Y221814184253CCA
BZ2515749472CCG
YP73516376116CCT
BZ4316509602CCG
YP392616576282CCA
BZ6016867805CCT
BZ5016920143CCT
BZ6117448035CCT
YP73617464362CCT
BZ5317957520CCT
BZ2718149273CCT
BZ5418632574CCT
BZ4118897331CCA
Y220719053060CCT
YP123119254773CCT
BZ4819295189CCA
YP123219351201CCT
YP100619440667CCT
YP124921126319CCT
BZ3322128896CCT
Y220022588598CCT
BZ3422720359CCT
BZ2622816094CCT
BZ8222861806CCA
YP103623431415CCT
Y219623646920CCT
BZ233014878GGC
Y22323995524GGA
BZ244705139GGA
Y27466985833GGC
BZ377928269GGA
BZ658505755GGA
YP10088531332GGT
Y22209408770GGT
BZ749764674GGA
BZ6614117402GGA
YP124014411838GGC
Y302714683323GGA
YP122915822488GGA
Y221315834557GGA
YP124315967717GGT
BZ7017044703GGT
Y302817842405GGA
Y221118043999GGA
YP100518144704GGT
BZ2818642795GGA
YP73918984424GGA
BZ4919295581GGA
YP103519308440GGA
YP101119337819GGC
BZ7821147704GGA
Y220321277083GGA
BZ8021412709GGA
BZ4421557654GGA
YP74021711960GGA
BZ4521778042GGA
Y220222017904GGT
Y302922545510GGT
YP100322824646GGA
YP74722968535GGC
BZ4723069733GGA
YP7457192612TTA
BZ397751218TTC
BZ367763738TTC
YP39247782752TTC
BZ558334045TTC
BZ728770743TTA
Y221514385853TTG
BZ5714730789TTC
BZ6915313344TTA
YP109515705584TTG
BZ5916199340TTC
Y221216994660TTA
YP100417863816TTC
Y221018046486TTC
YP101018386344TTG
YP107118783851TTC
Y275419228285TTC
YP124719241035TTA
YP109619290184TTG
YP100721192924TTC
YP123421625596TTC
BZ3021879151TTC
Y303022989959TTC
Y275123338485TTC
BZ6224443001TTA
BZ6714469528CCT
BZ415128521GGA
FGC1066415455814TTC
FGC201015487465TTC
BZ716773393CCA
FGC202017969724TTC
BZ518063861TTC
FGC1066818148788GGA
BZ821098289AAC
BZ621289994TTC
FGC1067221329851CCG
BZ922662949AAG
BZ322802773GGA
FGC203023036871AAC
Y274714174284CCT
Y274815911171TTA
Y274917216758CCG
Y27528757232CCA
Y275316933881CCT
FGC18987357489CCT
FGC484922487320TTG
FGC766313678174GGC
PR5205/BZ5614658470CCT
L31521869914CCT

How do these SNPs compare to the YFull tree?

Below is a tree of the Q-L245 branches as we understand them right now.

[Please see the newest tree.]
2017-02-03T12:35:27+00:00 December 18th, 2015|Categories: News, Q-M242|
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