The Q-L245 SNP Pack – Update 1

During the BETA launch of the new Q-L245 SNP Pack panel over 50 people ordered. This is wonderful. We expect to discover many new things even with this first group.

I have already learned more about what project members do and don’t know about their test results. For me, addressing this is one of the best parts of being a project administrator.

Who are you?

I am Rebekah A. Canada. I founded the Q Y-DNA Project in 2006. I am an unpaid volunteer project administrator at FamilyTreeDNA. The Q Y-DNA Project was the second DNA project that I founded, and my first Y-DNA project. The project now has two administrators and a dozen co-administrators.

Project administrators enjoy a mutually beneficial relationship with FamilyTreeDNA. They give us a free templated webpage to display results and backend tools to evaluate members’ results. In return, project administrators provide most of the result interpretation to customers. We use our own e-mail addresses and phone numbers for our work. In short, we are not FamilyTreeDNA staff.

Project administrators are generally genealogists and citizen scientists. We have a passion for discovery. Usually though, we have limited personal budgets. This means we count on project members and donors to pay for the tests that move discovery forward.

I, personally, am affiliated with FamilyTreeDNA in two roles. First, I am a project administrator. Second, I am a paid consultant for work that is really most sincerely different from what I do as a project administrator. In the second role, I work on stuff that I am not allowed to talk about.

That makes me a bit different from the almost 3,000 other project administrators at FamilyTreeDNA, but not in a way that matters for the project. The first role is much more fun.

So, on to the joy of genetic genealogy and citizen science.

What are Y-DNA SNPs?

Y-Chromosome DNA is the DNA that all men inherit from their father’s. In human population genetics and genetic genealogy, there are two types of Y-Chromosome DNA markers. They are STRs and SNPs. The technical details are not too important.

  • STRs – Faster moving markers good for recent genealogy especially when a common surname is present.
  • SNPs – Slower moving markers that define the male line from fairly recent times back to our earliest male ancestor.

Y-DNA SNPs are slow moving genetic changes. They are considered stable in that they are unlikely to change more than once. A Y-DNA SNP happens every 2 to 4 generations on a direct male line. This makes them the landmarks for building the paternal tree of mankind.

Like our genealogical tree, each branch has a single father branch. At high enough testing resolution, they can serve as stand ins for a traditional Western European style paternal surname.

How do you know the ages of branches?

The project is using branch ages determined with Big Y and Y Elite 1.0 results processed by YFull. This is a SNP per base pair tested dating method. You can read the methods paper here.

Isn’t Q Siberian?

Well, actually, no; it is not. Dr. Michael Hammer announced at the big FamilyTreeDNA project administrators’ conference in 2014 that, based on new information, both haplogroup Q and R have likely origins in South Asia.

Why is the Q-L245 SNP Panel test important?

When I started the Q project 9 years ago, there was a small group of Ashkenazi Jewish men who seemed to share a common ancestor. Over time, we discovered other men who were not Ashkenazi Jewish but had similar genetic profiles. With more discoveries, we found that all of these men belong to Q-L245.

There are now men with many origins in the Q-L245 group. These include Armenians, Turks, Arabs, Persians, Kurds, Assyrians, and even an Azeri. In Europe, there are branches from Germany, the Netherlands, and Swiss Mennonites. There are also now African and Sephardic Jews as well as Ashkenazi Jews.

The common origin is many thousands of years ago. For example, the Ashkenazi Jewish parent branch, Q-Y2200, is about 2,000 years old.

We tested many of these men including over a dozen Jewish Q-L245 men using the advanced BIG Y test from FamilyTreeDNA and some men with the Y-Elite 1.0 test from Full Genomes Corp. In these results, we found many new branches that show the connections and ages between the different branches. Because tests like BIG Y are still rather expensive, we placed defining markers for the new branches on the Q-L245 panel.

Who Ordered?

Below is a table of orders.

FTDNA Kit Name Origin Ethnic Group
N10811 Allon Ukraine Ashkenazi
360463 Alossi Italy
218925 Alperovich Ashkenazi
N89634 Avksentyev Ukraine
86495 Berkson Lithuania Ashkenazi
168299 Block Czech Republic Ashkenazi
N59852 Brockett
N69419 Caliandri Italy
277247 Frank Germany
117733 Frank Lithuania
50021 Friedman Hungary Ashkenazi
61751 Friedman Ashkenazi
306047 Greene Latvia Ashkenazi-Levite
N24707 Haber Germany Ashkenazi
266787 Hovey Netherlands
70600 Howard Latvia Ashkenazi-Levite
156072 Huff Netherlands
156851 Isaak Germany Ashkenazi
158843 Joseph Poland Ashkenazi
138817 Kaplan Latvia Ashkenazi
N60780 Karp Poland Ashkenazi
173631 Knight Iran Zoroastrian
423440 Krakoski Lithuania
E5340 Maran Turkey Arminian
382597 Marcus Romania
N23549 Mark Latvia Ashkenazi
N18797 Marks Romania Ashkenazi
115493 Michelson Lithuania Ashkenazi
N44498 Miliacca Italy
110473 Nemer Romania Ashkenazi
224586 Oppenheimer Germany Ashkenazi
N137278 Paxton US
240219 Pelter Poland
185510 Perl Hungary Ashkenazi
N74094 Posner Russia
139521 Powell
57385 Reichbaum Ashkenazi
B12053 Rofheart Lithuania
208674 Santa Maria
339613 Schackman Russian Federation
285078 Schutt
45731 Schweitzer Ukraine Ashkenazi
B5668 Shaw Poland
115454 Shockey Switzerland
155591 Shpolyansky Ukraine Ashkenazi
129123 Silverman Romania (Bukovina) Ashkenazi
78149 Smith
277002 Souek Czech Republic
N86207 Sternfeld Poland Ashkenazi
243739 Steven Friedman Slovakia Ashkenazi
129312 Tarkoff Ukraine Ashkenazi
366083 Taylor England
170400 Young Ashkenazi
244267 Zyroff Poland

What SNP Markers are on the Q-L245 SNP Panel?

The following Y-Chromosome SNP markers are on the panel. These SNPs were selected from the current tree and project member’s BIG Y and Y-Elite results. This tree shows how the SNP markers relate to the experimental tree at YFull.

SNP Name Position (Build 37) HUGO Reference Value Ancestral Value Derived Value
Y2233 3148720 A A G
BZ64 3160089 A A C
Y2253 4686350 A A G
Y2229 4914530 A A G
YP730 6704240 A A C
BZ51 7739247 A A T
BZ38 8292569 A A G
YP746 14004634 A A G
Y2216 14353022 A A C
BZ68 15017128 A A T
BZ76 15165935 A A C
BZ58 15678462 A A G
YP1009 17281110 A A G
BZ35 17891743 A A G
Y2209 18051798 A A C
YP1246 18071973 A A G
Y2208 18207170 A A G
YP1230 18597044 A A G
Y2750 18697269 A A G
BZ29 21163811 A A G
BZ32 21322098 A A G
YP1235 21783201 A A G
BZ52 21988185 A A T
BZ46 22041373 A A G
Y2781 22612418 A A T
Y2198 22825080 A A G
Y2197 22953894 A A G
BZ63 28626650 A A C
YP1236 2734466 C C G
BZ31 3085515 C C A
Y2231 4606181 C C T
Y2230 4798081 C C A
Y2225 6949449 C C T
Y3026 7116693 C C G
YP1237 7193834 C C T
YP3925 7873571 C C G
BZ42 7958215 C C T
Y2224 8662585 C C A
BZ40 8791604 C C T
Y2780 9761433 C C T
Y2219 9892635 C C T
YP1226 10006352 C C T
Y2218 14184253 C C A
BZ25 15749472 C C G
YP735 16376116 C C T
BZ43 16509602 C C G
YP3926 16576282 C C A
BZ60 16867805 C C T
BZ50 16920143 C C T
BZ61 17448035 C C T
YP736 17464362 C C T
BZ53 17957520 C C T
BZ27 18149273 C C T
BZ54 18632574 C C T
BZ41 18897331 C C A
Y2207 19053060 C C T
YP1231 19254773 C C T
BZ48 19295189 C C A
YP1232 19351201 C C T
YP1006 19440667 C C T
YP1249 21126319 C C T
BZ33 22128896 C C T
Y2200 22588598 C C T
BZ34 22720359 C C T
BZ26 22816094 C C T
BZ82 22861806 C C A
YP1036 23431415 C C T
Y2196 23646920 C C T
BZ23 3014878 G G C
Y2232 3995524 G G A
BZ24 4705139 G G A
Y2746 6985833 G G C
BZ37 7928269 G G A
BZ65 8505755 G G A
YP1008 8531332 G G T
Y2220 9408770 G G T
BZ74 9764674 G G A
BZ66 14117402 G G A
YP1240 14411838 G G C
Y3027 14683323 G G A
YP1229 15822488 G G A
Y2213 15834557 G G A
YP1243 15967717 G G T
BZ70 17044703 G G T
Y3028 17842405 G G A
Y2211 18043999 G G A
YP1005 18144704 G G T
BZ28 18642795 G G A
YP739 18984424 G G A
BZ49 19295581 G G A
YP1035 19308440 G G A
YP1011 19337819 G G C
BZ78 21147704 G G A
Y2203 21277083 G G A
BZ80 21412709 G G A
BZ44 21557654 G G A
YP740 21711960 G G A
BZ45 21778042 G G A
Y2202 22017904 G G T
Y3029 22545510 G G T
YP1003 22824646 G G A
YP747 22968535 G G C
BZ47 23069733 G G A
YP745 7192612 T T A
BZ39 7751218 T T C
BZ36 7763738 T T C
YP3924 7782752 T T C
BZ55 8334045 T T C
BZ72 8770743 T T A
Y2215 14385853 T T G
BZ57 14730789 T T C
BZ69 15313344 T T A
YP1095 15705584 T T G
BZ59 16199340 T T C
Y2212 16994660 T T A
YP1004 17863816 T T C
Y2210 18046486 T T C
YP1010 18386344 T T G
YP1071 18783851 T T C
Y2754 19228285 T T C
YP1247 19241035 T T A
YP1096 19290184 T T G
YP1007 21192924 T T C
YP1234 21625596 T T C
BZ30 21879151 T T C
Y3030 22989959 T T C
Y2751 23338485 T T C
BZ62 24443001 T T A
BZ67 14469528 C C T
BZ4 15128521 G G A
FGC10664 15455814 T T C
FGC2010 15487465 T T C
BZ7 16773393 C C A
FGC2020 17969724 T T C
BZ5 18063861 T T C
FGC10668 18148788 G G A
BZ8 21098289 A A C
BZ6 21289994 T T C
FGC10672 21329851 C C G
BZ9 22662949 A A G
BZ3 22802773 G G A
FGC2030 23036871 A A C
Y2747 14174284 C C T
Y2748 15911171 T T A
Y2749 17216758 C C G
Y2752 8757232 C C A
Y2753 16933881 C C T
FGC1898 7357489 C C T
FGC4849 22487320 T T G
FGC7663 13678174 G G C
PR5205/BZ56 14658470 C C T
L315 21869914 C C T

How do these SNPs compare to the YFull tree?

Below is a tree of the Q-L245 branches as we understand them right now. [fusion_builder_container hundred_percent=”yes” overflow=”visible”][fusion_builder_row][fusion_builder_column type=”1_1″ background_position=”left top” background_color=”” border_size=”” border_color=”” border_style=”solid” spacing=”yes” background_image=”” background_repeat=”no-repeat” padding=”” margin_top=”0px” margin_bottom=”0px” class=”” id=”” animation_type=”” animation_speed=”0.3″ animation_direction=”left” hide_on_mobile=”no” center_content=”no” min_height=”none”][Please see the newest tree.][/fusion_builder_column][/fusion_builder_row][/fusion_builder_container]

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